Fate of Jherra

[Ayen]

Decide the fate of Jherra after The End plot now.

[Sincara]

Key word in the question being some. We can keep the boards that have the most activity in Jherra, destroy the ones that haven't and then focus on creating new areas in Elim to make up for the lost. What's the point of doing this plot is everything is just going to be rebuilt?

[Tajna Rasha]

So this actually erupted from an argument between me and Ayen about the level of attachment board members have to the boards, and how willing they would be in letting them go after the conclusion of the Arashi plot.

The End has been planned for a very long time to be the force that would restore all of the Grand Design to its original state, and destroy anything that would stand in its way. For those who have been following the chapters, you will know that this event was foretold since the very beginning of this forum. Now this started on Jherra, but since we have discovered a new continent a possibility rose up that the End could very well destroy parts, if not entire cities, of the original boards.

Now up to this point we've had a few Deus Ex Machinas with cities being constantly being rebuilt following their destruction, but this is the End we're talking about. The thing everyone's been waiting for, and fearing for the better part of the year. How meaningful would it be if the impact of this villain walking the earth could be solved with a few bricks and magic really?

It boils to you, the members. I will never do anything against what Ayen wishes, and as an admin he's awesome enough to leave the decision completely in your hands.

My own opinion on the matter is, obviously, that I'd wish some extent of the destruction be left in-tact, as to leave a mark that this happened, a few bits of legitimate forum history that would remain, just like Emmanuel (the resident second sun of Genesis). I feel that this would not only validate the End, but every member that will get involved in thwarting it. It's people's chance to leave a trace.

And trust me, it will leave a trace.

Also for those still skeptical - I am no idiot - I know there are a few places way too awesome (and popular) to obliterate *cough* Isafaro *cough* and I will be considerate of the better RP spots for everyone's sake... cause hey, I do roleplay on here too and happen to like it! Basically this is about making a relevant and lasting choice. We've had enough plot-armoured locales (looking at you, Aircano >.>). It's time to expand horizons, and cause some mayhem ;D

[Linx]

I know I don't get involved here very much, but I figured I'd leave my two cents here anyway. I vote leave them destroyed for the simple story to it. The End, the herald of the destruction of creation is very much something that can't be easily swept aside. Sure, everything could rebuilt, but that doesn't change what happened. It doesn't rebuild the lives lost in the wars and fights against the Arashi, Maricul or the Netherrealm. It doesn't repair the trauma or emotional damage citizens and characters will suffer. I say leave it destroyed, as a monument to everything that was fought for, a lasting reminder of why we fight. I'd think it callous to just try to wash away the sacrifice that so many made in order to fight and stop the End.

>.> *cough cough* I'm done now.

[Kira Yamato]

Alright. To Sincara and Tajna. I do have to say I think you may be being a bit melodramatic. Not all good plots have to end with things being destroyed forever. In fact most the ones in my memory actually don't. People move on when things happen it's just how they are. They don't not try to recollect their lifes. Sometimes even that simple task of moving on can be more tasking then simply remembering. The fact of trying to forget, to act like nothing has gone wrong. So I said rebuild. Sorry Gui.

[Adelina]

Quite frankly I'm tired of seeing areas destroyed and taken away from us constantly. We had to put up with several attacks on Hallowton destroying parts of the city, two different demon attacks (the Netherrealm doing the most damage by far) and now you want to wipe out more areas while we want to explore their history and actually develop the world. We can't do that if you guys keep destroying everything around us with your plots.

[Tajna Rasha]

I think you guys have missed the point.

These areas are never destroyed, because they continue to exist plot after plot after plot. It's actually quite ridiculous how much these places are left standing at all, nevermind in perfect condition by the time another attack comes their way.

And I'd very much like to point out there is an entire continent designed for the sole sake of story and exploration.

[Red Queen]

Sept 30, 2012 0:49:28 GMT -6 Adelina said:

Quite frankly I'm tired of seeing areas destroyed and taken away from us constantly. We had to put up with several attacks on Hallowton destroying parts of the city, two different demon attacks (the Netherrealm doing the most damage by far) and now you want to wipe out more areas while we want to explore their history and actually develop the world. We can't do that if you guys keep destroying everything around us with your plots.

You had a year to explore Jherra... You choose now to want to do actual exploration?

[Eos]

Sept 30, 2012 0:54:22 GMT -6 Red Queen said:

Sept 30, 2012 0:49:28 GMT -6 Adelina said:

Quite frankly I'm tired of seeing areas destroyed and taken away from us constantly. We had to put up with several attacks on Hallowton destroying parts of the city, two different demon attacks (the Netherrealm doing the most damage by far) and now you want to wipe out more areas while we want to explore their history and actually develop the world. We can't do that if you guys keep destroying everything around us with your plots.

You had a year to explore Jherra... You choose now to want to do actual exploration?

You, I like you.

[Legion]

I find these results so far to be quite depressing.

I voted for leaving them destroyed in case you couldn't already guess.

[dmc89]

Sept 30, 2012 0:25:56 GMT -6 Kira Yamato said:

Alright. To Sincara and Tajna. I do have to say I think you may be being a bit melodramatic. Not all good plots have to end with things being destroyed forever. In fact most the ones in my memory actually don't. People move on when things happen it's just how they are. They don't not try to recollect their lifes. Sometimes even that simple task of moving on can be more tasking then simply remembering. The fact of trying to forget, to act like nothing has gone wrong. So I said rebuild. Sorry Gui.

Sept 30, 2012 0:49:28 GMT -6 Adelina said:

Quite frankly I'm tired of seeing areas destroyed and taken away from us constantly. We had to put up with several attacks on Hallowton destroying parts of the city, two different demon attacks (the Netherrealm doing the most damage by far) and now you want to wipe out more areas while we want to explore their history and actually develop the world. We can't do that if you guys keep destroying everything around us with your plots.

So, My first point is going to be made towards Kira. This is an Arashi, a being that I once most accurately described as God's Little Red Button. And it doesn't matter what kind of argument is made when it comes to Role Play reasons, this Arashi is the final, most fearsome creature ever. It is the embodiment and epitome of everything that is final and everything's end.

If a Thing that fearsome came through and tore up all of New York or Vegas. They wouldn't rebuild the city, they'd more than likely only build a monument to remember all the lives lost there. They certainly wouldn't fucking rebuild a damn city where so many fucking people lost their lives and tramps and desecrate their final resting place because although they are fictional, we're still dealing with people who would act as people do. A Good decent people, don't rebuild a city over other people's fucking grave!

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Adelina, I agree with Red Queen. Everyone had a year, everyone has known about this and various other plots going on in the site and most people, especially those who signed up fairly recently. And By those I mean recently I mean during Gui's Absence were all too busy trying to boast and brag about their characters and others just didn't even care, they were too busy NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ACTUAL PLOTS OF THE SITE. People didn't need to be involved, But they should have at least paid attention. And most people didn't and now this is what happens. People need to not bitch whine and cry and make up bullshit excuses when something that would actually fucking happen and would be irreversible happens because they don't like the idea of actual WIDE SCALE DEVELOPMENT because it doesn't suit their character. It's that bullshit escapism that takes out any hint of realism in role play that I hate.

No, people wouldn't rebuild an entire fucking city that was just destroyed by a fucking deity. Especially Natives of Genesis who are superstitious as hell. No, they wouldn't be enough survivors to a mass and carry on with life. No, The events would be too damn dramatic and traumatic for people to try and push out of their minds. Because if that was the case, in this world people would never remember Pearl Harbor or even 9/11.

My point is simple, this forum needs to keep realism intact and that's hard to do in Fandemoniums because you have so many different Mythos and legends and stories and rules of different universes combined. So keeping these cities wrecked and ravaged is a good way to do just that.

So I say yes, wreck the fucking cities and keep them that way.

P.S. Don't bother replying to this, I won't reply back to this thread after this post.

[Ashley]

IMO this never should have been a poll. ToriJ and Tajna should have just gotten together and decide how they wanted to do the destruction, go with it and deal with the criticism as they came. It's clear from the lack of posts on the rebuild side, not to mention lack of any concrete argument, you guys have no other reason for wanting to keep these areas than you just want to keep them. Jherra is a small continent on a largely unexplored world, ergo it's expendable. You also have a board dedicated to roleplaying anyplace, anytime, anywhere so if you want to relive the glory days of Jherra, RP there. Quite frankly you guys are being thick-headed and selfish about this. Lighten the fuck up.

[Kragen]

This is a joke right? I'd expect some to want to rebuild but 12 is an awful lot. You're all just pulling Tajna's leg to get back at him for all the months of mind rape right?

...right?

[Tenjou, Utena]

Keep them destroyed.

You all do remember that this is a "free-form" RP, yes? Nobody knows what's going to be destroyed or how it's going to be destroyed. You're all assuming that entire cities are going to be destroyed when for all we know parts of the cities will be destroyed or split. Isafaro and Kari are so large in size they could be made into two or three separate cities through the destruction. It all boils down to us, the players and right now? I'm seeing a severe lack of confidence in player ability to defend their land. All powerful deity created to end the world?

Sounds like a typical Saturday to me.

[Cloud]

When this came up I wasn't so sure about destroying an entire continent... so I voted Rebuild and went to do a little research. I didn't read e every single chapter thread, just the ones in the first chapter. There I learned of the "Prophecy" and how its already carrying itself out. I then learned that Jherra was a small continent on a huge planet, so why cry over spilled milk? As for the monument thing, I don't think that the survivors would build one..... This is Pearl Harbor times a hundred. Thousands upon thousand will die. The events during the End will be so traumatic that people would rather forget rather than remember. At least... this is in my opinion.