The Nightmare of Hallowton Discussion

[Dracula]

Dec 17, 2012 15:14:31 GMT -6 Sincara said:

Not sure where Dracula is going with his posts but I'm guessing he's wising up to Sebastian being the cause of the plague. Which is strange considering there are half a dozen different reasons why Integra would be punishing one of her subordinates in such a way.

Integra ordered her servant to slash his throat and he is visibly not afflicted with the plague which is known to affect the supernatural. It's not hard to put the pieces together.

And I am inclined to agree with Adelina and Spokes. I quite enjoy playing a weakened Dracula as its a rare opportunity and would hate to see it end abruptly when there are still stories and character development that can spawn from it.

[sebastian]

To those complaining about the cure, I included it for one sole purpose. The fact that it is a supernatural plague created and caused by the demon, he alone knows the actual cure. While everyone else can come up with treatment, or ways to ease passing, or perhaps postpone a new bout, etc; there is still the fact that there is an infinite number of chemical which could be mixed for such a cure, both discovered and undiscovered. It would be highly unlikely, no matter long it took, to come up with a cure for a sickness no one knows anything about, except that it's similar to the Black Plague. Especially if some of those chemicals are yet undiscovered. Obviously, something the demon did made the Plague work as it does. Think realistically about this... It does affect supernatural creatures as well as humans, after all. Its basis is the Black Plague, but it's not the same thing. The Black Plague can be cured through the usage of antibiotics, supportive care, and early treatment. But this Nameless Plague, those things would only serve to help, not cure. I included that tiny little bottle so that whenever you all decide to draw this subplot to a close, you have your way to do it with ease. For me, I have my coming inactivity due to college; so there's no guarantee I'd be on to deal with cure stuff once you all got bored with this. It was merely a precaution, and I apologize if bringing it in was an annoyance to you guys. But you are under no obligation to use the cure anytime soon, or at all really. Saephara has already stated it would be hidden and unused without Integra's consent, and the staff have an easy and direct say in the matter that way. I created this subplot, so I felt a certain responsibility to make sure it could be easily manipulated without my being here.

[Saephara]

I agree with the above, and I have already been directed in which way to disperse said cure.

[Marvel Universe]

Jan 8, 2013 3:03:29 GMT -6 @sebastian said:

It would be highly unlikely, no matter long it took, to come up with a cure for a sickness no one knows anything about, except that it's similar to the Black Plague.

Challenge accepted.

[.:Amilia:.]

Jan 8, 2013 14:23:24 GMT -6 Marvel Universe said:

Jan 8, 2013 3:03:29 GMT -6 @sebastian said:

It would be highly unlikely, no matter long it took, to come up with a cure for a sickness no one knows anything about, except that it's similar to the Black Plague.

Challenge accepted.

I am also to agree with this Challenge. -Harker

[sebastian]

-sigh- Whatever. Obviously, you guys are just going to rp some miraculous discovery of "secret ingredients" and whatnot because your 'Technology is so great.' Why did I even bother trying to make an easy withdrawal of the illness... Go ahead and do what you want, I don't care what happens with the Plague anymore, I did my part in just starting it.

[.:Amilia:.]

Jan 8, 2013 17:25:07 GMT -6 @sebastian said:

-sigh- Whatever. Obviously, you guys are just going to rp some miraculous discovery of "secret ingredients" and whatnot because your 'Technology is so great.' Why did I even bother trying to make an easy withdrawal of the illness... Go ahead and do what you want, I don't care what happens with the Plague anymore, I did my part in just starting it.

Are you seriously thinking we're going to just up and come up with a miracle cure out of our asses? Okay lemme indulge you on how I role play and please please don't let this affect our standing with one another.

When I see an opportunity to role play out a situation I take that chance, I'm an old school role player I enjoy looking for ways to develop my characters and the plots around me. I do not like to instantly fix things and call it a day, the bigger the impact the better the outcome. So let's look at this from a logical stand point.

Two of the greatest minds in Jherra come together and start working on a cure of some type this cure starts off as a prototype which doesn't cure shit but postpones death pauses cycles, gives people hope and time. Over time the two of them continue to develop the cure through mutations and genetic alterations.

Okay so with that little but of a summery I just gave you is more or less a months worth of work and I haven't even touched on curing a single person. So lets go to phase two.

The cure doesn't work out and suddenly people are getting sicker, things suddenly go bad and a lot of people start dying because the cure has weakened their immune system for the second cycle of the plague to wash over their achievement. Now the two greatest minds have to figure out a way to deliver a antivirus a booster to boost up the immune systems of people while stopping the second cycle.

This goes on until pop their work finally produces a cure. Do I hear half a years worth of time? How about a year?

I know you have only known me and most of these people since summer but seriously, you take things too seriously when we're joking around. I honestly have to say I've never taken the easy road to success in role play, I've never tried to ruin anyones plots (even though I have, my apologies endgame.). Instead, I like Ranka, Eric, Tori, and many others from the old days have always looked for ways to make people build their characters and stories based around the plot.

So, really dude lighten up a bit not everyone is going to rain on your parade.

[Marvel Universe]

Jan 8, 2013 17:25:07 GMT -6 @sebastian said:

-sigh- Whatever. Obviously, you guys are just going to rp some miraculous discovery of "secret ingredients" and whatnot because your 'Technology is so great.' Why did I even bother trying to make an easy withdrawal of the illness... Go ahead and do what you want, I don't care what happens with the Plague anymore, I did my part in just starting it.

I was thinking more along the lines of interacting with characters like Harker while battling my own sickness, working up several failed cures and then dumping the waste into the underground tunnels that I'm turning into a sewers so Hallowton have a place to dump their waste.

Edit: And I second everything Arix said.

[sebastian]

You guys misunderstand. I'm not talking about pulling a shit cure from your ass; I'm well aware that neither of you roleplay that way, and I appreciate the fact you don't rp that way. You aren't the kind to ruin plots or anything, I'm not accusing you of any such actions. Yes, I can admit and accept that I'm too serious at times; but if you guys thought for a moment about everything, you might understand why.

I was referring to the fact that this is a Plague which affects even supernatural creatures. Therefore, using natural chemicals or ingredients or whatever you guys discover or make wouldn't be able to cure it in the end. Think of it this way... A secret ingredient or two, that the creator of the Plague alone can provide. That would be the more realistic conclusion. I brought that cure in because eventually, this subplot will get old and boring, and that is the logical way to end the trouble. You guys can have your experimental fun and whatever you have in mind, make the subplot last long and be a fun thing for everyone. It would make me very happy to see that a random thought on my part became a lasting subplot which was fun for people. But if you want to stick to realism, discovering a cure later without using that bottle wouldn't be possible.

In any case, whatever you guys decide to do; I'm honored to have been able to play a role in such a popular thread at all.

[.:Amilia:.]

I apologize I went about that in a very militant angry black lady kind of way. Your reply though didn't help things. Either way, I have no plans to see through a cure without the main ingredient. The only way I'd cure a virus that is seemingly uncurable is through a long process involving the creator of the plague itself. If the creator is not around and there is no viable way to cure it then yes I will go to plan B and unnaturally find a way to cure such a thing. And I know you left the bottle with Sae but the way everything happened felt rushed to me with her coming directly to Harker about te same moment I reintroduced him. I'm just looking for the longest possible way to keep this plot alive.

Either way, I am sorry I went about it that way.

[Saephara]

I can always pull Sae back a bit or have her hang around. Like said, she loves to work for others. Gives her a purpose in a way.

[sebastian]

"Your reply though didn't help things."

Yes, I realize this, and I also apologize. I was rather rude in turn, and what I said certainly did sound accusing. It would have been better for me to word things differently; despite my own frustration.

I'm not sure what my plans are after the thread with Alucard. But you have me on Skype, and I'm also in the DoA Facebook group of course. Draw out the plot as much as you desire, I'm very happy that it's turned into something so popular and that people like you are even bothering to try and extend its life. But I'll be around still; just not here on DoA. I will continue to peek at Chat Box as well on occasion, in case someone needs to talk to me. You can contact me whenever you need to get the creator involved to end this in the future, and we'll see what we can work out from there, without me actually being here.

To everyone who's been involved in this subplot and enjoy it; I thank you so much for jumping in. It would have been nothing exciting or entertaining without all the participation. I apologize to all of you that any of this came up, and I'll attempt to ensure that such misunderstanding and disagreement doesn't happen again. I realize the core of this problem was my original bringing in of a said "cure," and I accept full responsibility for these problems due to my lack of communication. I made no effort to explain the cure wasn't to be used for a while unless the forum majority wanted the plot to end, and provoked this argument through my own inability to clear up confusion without becoming irritable or choosing my words carefully. I hope you all can continue to find entertainment in this Plague roleplay, and again; I'm honored to have been able to start such a popular thing.

[Queen Lori]

Now that Sebastian has taken his leave, the thread has died down and few people are even referencing this subplot anymore, can we just go about ending it?

[Saephara]

Well my question is who is this 'her' that Dracula and Integra were talking about in it? Makes me curious, but I have to agree to end it.

[Silver Eyes]

May as well end it. Was a good plot and thread!