Post by Ryo? on Oct 14, 2012 5:08:50 GMT -6
So I figured, what with there being a various amount of Force Users running about I would create a chart of a Midi-Chlorian Count so people who place force characters and even cannon characters know where they stand. Most of this I got from another source and added certain things in.
Kissira Redgrave: Unknown
Darth Ira: Unknown
Kira Yamato/D.Kira: Unknown
Saneatsu: Unknown
Wakanda Sanyue: Unknown
Vaarn Karyus: Unknown
Reira Di-Suya: Fluctuates
(Reira Di-Suya's count fluctuates due to the mental and meta-physical bond that she shares with Raxus via the force.)
Illidan/Darth Raxus: 50,700
(He was originally at 23,000 however, after consuming Vader's Midi-Chlorians and merging them with his own Vader's 27,000 were added to his 23,000 making his count a staggering 50,700)
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader: 27,000
(Stated to be "Over 20000!" by Obi-Wan so I just chose an upper 20's number I thought looked fitting. He never reached it of course but still.)
Luke Skywalker: 23,000
Leia Skywalker: 23,000
(Luke and Leia are twins so I put them at the same. Do I think they're the same skill level. Oh nooooo. Just that they have the same potential.)
Galen Marek/Starkiller: 22,000
(The apprentice was said by the creators to be "What Luke would have been if he joined Vader on Bespin." so I put him here just below Luke to signify that. Plus he has quite a few feats under him. Brought down a Star Destroyer, owned through the Death Star's defenses, took down five Imperial Guards at once, completely owned Vader, and beat Palpatine all without a single breather. Yeah, he's strong...)
Cade Skywalker: 21,000
(Can bring people back from the dead. Wasn't sure where to put him but I figured upper tier.)
Palpatine/Darth Sidious: 20,000
(Stated by Lucas to be the strongest Sith Lord ever. With that said, I prefer G-canon over everything. I know some disagree but this is where I think he'd be, just above Yoda at his strongest but still below Starkiller.)
Yoda: 19,000
(The Jedi Grandmaster...definitely the strongest in the Order when it came to Force usage.)
Exar Kun: 18,700
Ulic Qel-Droma: 18,500
(Two of the greatest Jedi/Sith ever. Had to be top-tier. Agree? Disagree?)
Mace Windu: 18,000
(Probably has more "shown" feats in the series than any other character. Do I think he's stronger than Palpatine though? No. I'm one of the few people that think Palpatine faked his defeat for Anakin. Mace even saw that the boy was Palp's shatterpoint. And seriously, how bad would it have looked if Anakin walked in to find the lifeless body of Mace Windu laying before Sidious? I don't think Anakin would have joined him then.)
Revan/Darth Revan: 17,900
(I figure this is a good place to put him. I know people will be saying above Palpatine or at least above Mace but what people don't realize is that Revan is strong but his feats are associated with his tactical knowledge, not always his Force power.)
Dessel/Darth Bane: 17,800
(Below Revan IMO just below and above everyone else. Bane is the true definition of a beast.)
Ben Skywalker: 17,700
Anakin Solo: 17,700
Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus: 17,500
Jaina Solo: 17,500
(Wasn't quite sure where to put all of the kids. I know Caedus could wipe the floor with all of them but I couldn't effectively determine their potentials. Anyone think they should be higher?)
Obi-Wan Kenobi: 17,000
(Obi-Wan is and always will be my favorite character in the series, ever since Ep IV. That said and biased opinion aside I think he was easily the third strongest in the Order by Ep III. Had he reached his full potential by then? No. But he was darn close.)
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus: 16,500
(I think he reached his full potential personally. He was talented enough in the Force to at least get a compliment out of Yoda, which had NEVER happened before in the series. That alone astounded me.)
Darth Plagueis: 15,500
(Don't know anything about him just figured he had to be pretty strong. Don't really care where he goes though...)
Exile: 15,000
Darth Nihilus: 14,900
Darth Sion: 14,800
Kreia/Darth Traya: 14,600
(Not sure about these four. Nihilus is verrrry strong so should he be higher? Should the others go with him or stay where they are? Opinions?)
Kyp Durron: 14,500
Kyle Katarn: 14,400
Jaden Korr: 14,200
(Figured that these were the three best Jedi in the NJO and each have shown some pretty remarkable feats of their own so...)
Ajunta Pall: 14,100
Marka Ragnos: 14,000
Naga Sadow: 13,900
Ludo Kressh: 13,800
(All the Ancient Lords I put here because well, I didn't have too much to go on. Strong but not too strong. Way above average.)
Kol Skywalker: 13,500
Nat Skywalker: 13,500
(These two were random entries)
Cin Drallig: 13,000
(Okay, into the real Council and strongest members of the Order. I went by my personal opinion of order of strength from Crin Drallig to Ahsoka Tano. Cin is this high because although he's just the battlemaster he incorporated more concentrated Force power into his movements and attacks, using Force speed like it was nothing.)
Plo Koon: 12,900
Shaak Ti: 12,800
(Plo and Shaak are definitely up there on the Council. Too bad Plo got blindsided in his fighter. Clone troopers wouldn't got demolished under Electric Judgment on the ground in a fair fight. And Shaak controlled the Mega Sarlaac...not an easy feat.
Alek/Darth Malak: 12,800
(Never found Malak to be that impressive...ever.)
Kit Fisto: 12,700
Saesee Tiin: 12,600
Ki-Adi Mundi: 12,500
Quinlan Vos: 12,200
(Quinlan was the definition of a badass. He could beat Maul IMO and probably a bunch of other Council members with lightsaber skill alone.)
Sora Bulq: 12,100
Mara Jade Skywalker: 12,000
Darth Maul: 12,000
(I know that there will be some debate over this one but I just didn't see too many Force feats of his. Yes, he could wreck quite a few Jedi with his saber alone but incorporating the Force I wasn't sure. Raise him?)
Depa Billaba: 11,900
Kazdan Paratus: 11,900
(I hate him so much but he has to be pretty strong to make completely operation Force techs right? Maybe stronger?)
Yaddle: 11,800
(Awesome enough in the Force to suck in the deadly poisons of numerous bombs blowing up all around a city, absorbing the toxins into herself and dying from it.)
Oppo Rancisis: 11,700
Yarael Poof: 11,700
(Oppo and Yarael are two of my favorite weird-looking Jedi. Both fairly strong with some unique Force feats.)
Asajj Ventress: 11,600
(Never impressed me much. She could take on Luminara without a sweat but gets curb stomped by Obi-Wan every time they face. And Yoda literally 'schooled' her so this is where she goes in my book.)
Ferus Olin: 11,500
(Was good at everything he did and he survived Order 66 and the Purge. He had to be up there. It hurt to put him this low.)
Luminara Unduli: 11,100
Desann: 10,900
(A tyrannosaurus with a lightsaber. Truly badass. I wish I could put him higher.)
Bastilla Shan: 10,800
(Strong enough in the Force to use Battle Meditation. It's her only real Force feat though...
Serra Keto: 10,800
Corran Horn: 10,700
(Place higher? Maybe with Kyle and the others. Wasn't sure...)
Rahm Kota: 10,500
(Again, maybe higher? Not by much though.)
Adi Gallia: 10,400
Even Piell: 10,400
Agen Kolar: 10,300
Eeth Koth: 10,300
Xanatos Omega: 10,300
(Definitely stronger than Qui-Gon. I put him here.)
Aayla Secura: 10,200
Ahsoka Tano: 10,200
(She's at least as good as Barriss and Aayla and although it hurts me not to make her a 2, I put her here.)
Barriss Offee: 10,100
Stass Allie: 10,100
Kento Marek: 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn: 10,000
(I love Qui-Gon. He's one of my favorites but I just do not think he was that strong in the Force. He had unique ideals and was awesome with a lightsaber but I never saw a single good Force feat.)
Juhani: 9,600
Tavion Axmis: 9,500
(Desann's lapdog. Gets owned every single time until Ragnos control her. Pretty weak in my opinion.)
Siri Tachi: 9,000
Jolee Bindo: 8,500
Rosh Penin: 8,000
(All I ever remember about this guy is Jaden saying "Rosh!" as he impaled him onto his lightsaber in the dark side ending of Academy. Can't be that strong...)
Coleman Trebor: 7,500
(Council member that got shot off the Geonosis arena by Jango. Council member? Really? Wow. Was he subbing for a real Council member that day or was it just another practical joke played by Yoda on one of his padawans?)
501st Legion: 7,300
(After taking over command of the Executor and the 501st, Raxus awakened the entire regimine's force sensitivity.)
Chewbacca: 7,200
(Said to have some Force potential right? I couldn't remember what book it was though.)
Aurra Sing: 7,000
Padme Amidala: 5,000
Danni Quee: 4,500
Shmi Skywalker: 4,000
Lando Calrissian: 3,300
Han Solo: 3,000
Jango Fett: 2,500
Boba Fett: 2,500
Owen Lars: 2,500
Beru Lars: 2,500
Granta Omega: 2,500
Clone Troopers: 2,500
| Midi-Chlorian Count Key | |
| Average non-force sensitive being: | 2,500 |
| Level Needed For Jedi/Sith Training: | 7,000 |
| Above Average Levels: | 17,000 - 20,000 |
| Severe Levels: | 21,000 and upwards |
Kissira Redgrave: Unknown
Darth Ira: Unknown
Kira Yamato/D.Kira: Unknown
Saneatsu: Unknown
Wakanda Sanyue: Unknown
Vaarn Karyus: Unknown
Reira Di-Suya: Fluctuates
(Reira Di-Suya's count fluctuates due to the mental and meta-physical bond that she shares with Raxus via the force.)
Illidan/Darth Raxus: 50,700
(He was originally at 23,000 however, after consuming Vader's Midi-Chlorians and merging them with his own Vader's 27,000 were added to his 23,000 making his count a staggering 50,700)
Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader: 27,000
(Stated to be "Over 20000!" by Obi-Wan so I just chose an upper 20's number I thought looked fitting. He never reached it of course but still.)
Luke Skywalker: 23,000
Leia Skywalker: 23,000
(Luke and Leia are twins so I put them at the same. Do I think they're the same skill level. Oh nooooo. Just that they have the same potential.)
Galen Marek/Starkiller: 22,000
(The apprentice was said by the creators to be "What Luke would have been if he joined Vader on Bespin." so I put him here just below Luke to signify that. Plus he has quite a few feats under him. Brought down a Star Destroyer, owned through the Death Star's defenses, took down five Imperial Guards at once, completely owned Vader, and beat Palpatine all without a single breather. Yeah, he's strong...)
Cade Skywalker: 21,000
(Can bring people back from the dead. Wasn't sure where to put him but I figured upper tier.)
Palpatine/Darth Sidious: 20,000
(Stated by Lucas to be the strongest Sith Lord ever. With that said, I prefer G-canon over everything. I know some disagree but this is where I think he'd be, just above Yoda at his strongest but still below Starkiller.)
Yoda: 19,000
(The Jedi Grandmaster...definitely the strongest in the Order when it came to Force usage.)
Exar Kun: 18,700
Ulic Qel-Droma: 18,500
(Two of the greatest Jedi/Sith ever. Had to be top-tier. Agree? Disagree?)
Mace Windu: 18,000
(Probably has more "shown" feats in the series than any other character. Do I think he's stronger than Palpatine though? No. I'm one of the few people that think Palpatine faked his defeat for Anakin. Mace even saw that the boy was Palp's shatterpoint. And seriously, how bad would it have looked if Anakin walked in to find the lifeless body of Mace Windu laying before Sidious? I don't think Anakin would have joined him then.)
Revan/Darth Revan: 17,900
(I figure this is a good place to put him. I know people will be saying above Palpatine or at least above Mace but what people don't realize is that Revan is strong but his feats are associated with his tactical knowledge, not always his Force power.)
Dessel/Darth Bane: 17,800
(Below Revan IMO just below and above everyone else. Bane is the true definition of a beast.)
Ben Skywalker: 17,700
Anakin Solo: 17,700
Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus: 17,500
Jaina Solo: 17,500
(Wasn't quite sure where to put all of the kids. I know Caedus could wipe the floor with all of them but I couldn't effectively determine their potentials. Anyone think they should be higher?)
Obi-Wan Kenobi: 17,000
(Obi-Wan is and always will be my favorite character in the series, ever since Ep IV. That said and biased opinion aside I think he was easily the third strongest in the Order by Ep III. Had he reached his full potential by then? No. But he was darn close.)
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus: 16,500
(I think he reached his full potential personally. He was talented enough in the Force to at least get a compliment out of Yoda, which had NEVER happened before in the series. That alone astounded me.)
Darth Plagueis: 15,500
(Don't know anything about him just figured he had to be pretty strong. Don't really care where he goes though...)
Exile: 15,000
Darth Nihilus: 14,900
Darth Sion: 14,800
Kreia/Darth Traya: 14,600
(Not sure about these four. Nihilus is verrrry strong so should he be higher? Should the others go with him or stay where they are? Opinions?)
Kyp Durron: 14,500
Kyle Katarn: 14,400
Jaden Korr: 14,200
(Figured that these were the three best Jedi in the NJO and each have shown some pretty remarkable feats of their own so...)
Ajunta Pall: 14,100
Marka Ragnos: 14,000
Naga Sadow: 13,900
Ludo Kressh: 13,800
(All the Ancient Lords I put here because well, I didn't have too much to go on. Strong but not too strong. Way above average.)
Kol Skywalker: 13,500
Nat Skywalker: 13,500
(These two were random entries)
Cin Drallig: 13,000
(Okay, into the real Council and strongest members of the Order. I went by my personal opinion of order of strength from Crin Drallig to Ahsoka Tano. Cin is this high because although he's just the battlemaster he incorporated more concentrated Force power into his movements and attacks, using Force speed like it was nothing.)
Plo Koon: 12,900
Shaak Ti: 12,800
(Plo and Shaak are definitely up there on the Council. Too bad Plo got blindsided in his fighter. Clone troopers wouldn't got demolished under Electric Judgment on the ground in a fair fight. And Shaak controlled the Mega Sarlaac...not an easy feat.
Alek/Darth Malak: 12,800
(Never found Malak to be that impressive...ever.)
Kit Fisto: 12,700
Saesee Tiin: 12,600
Ki-Adi Mundi: 12,500
Quinlan Vos: 12,200
(Quinlan was the definition of a badass. He could beat Maul IMO and probably a bunch of other Council members with lightsaber skill alone.)
Sora Bulq: 12,100
Mara Jade Skywalker: 12,000
Darth Maul: 12,000
(I know that there will be some debate over this one but I just didn't see too many Force feats of his. Yes, he could wreck quite a few Jedi with his saber alone but incorporating the Force I wasn't sure. Raise him?)
Depa Billaba: 11,900
Kazdan Paratus: 11,900
(I hate him so much but he has to be pretty strong to make completely operation Force techs right? Maybe stronger?)
Yaddle: 11,800
(Awesome enough in the Force to suck in the deadly poisons of numerous bombs blowing up all around a city, absorbing the toxins into herself and dying from it.)
Oppo Rancisis: 11,700
Yarael Poof: 11,700
(Oppo and Yarael are two of my favorite weird-looking Jedi. Both fairly strong with some unique Force feats.)
Asajj Ventress: 11,600
(Never impressed me much. She could take on Luminara without a sweat but gets curb stomped by Obi-Wan every time they face. And Yoda literally 'schooled' her so this is where she goes in my book.)
Ferus Olin: 11,500
(Was good at everything he did and he survived Order 66 and the Purge. He had to be up there. It hurt to put him this low.)
Luminara Unduli: 11,100
Desann: 10,900
(A tyrannosaurus with a lightsaber. Truly badass. I wish I could put him higher.)
Bastilla Shan: 10,800
(Strong enough in the Force to use Battle Meditation. It's her only real Force feat though...
Serra Keto: 10,800
Corran Horn: 10,700
(Place higher? Maybe with Kyle and the others. Wasn't sure...)
Rahm Kota: 10,500
(Again, maybe higher? Not by much though.)
Adi Gallia: 10,400
Even Piell: 10,400
Agen Kolar: 10,300
Eeth Koth: 10,300
Xanatos Omega: 10,300
(Definitely stronger than Qui-Gon. I put him here.)
Aayla Secura: 10,200
Ahsoka Tano: 10,200
(She's at least as good as Barriss and Aayla and although it hurts me not to make her a 2, I put her here.)
Barriss Offee: 10,100
Stass Allie: 10,100
Kento Marek: 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn: 10,000
(I love Qui-Gon. He's one of my favorites but I just do not think he was that strong in the Force. He had unique ideals and was awesome with a lightsaber but I never saw a single good Force feat.)
Juhani: 9,600
Tavion Axmis: 9,500
(Desann's lapdog. Gets owned every single time until Ragnos control her. Pretty weak in my opinion.)
Siri Tachi: 9,000
Jolee Bindo: 8,500
Rosh Penin: 8,000
(All I ever remember about this guy is Jaden saying "Rosh!" as he impaled him onto his lightsaber in the dark side ending of Academy. Can't be that strong...)
Coleman Trebor: 7,500
(Council member that got shot off the Geonosis arena by Jango. Council member? Really? Wow. Was he subbing for a real Council member that day or was it just another practical joke played by Yoda on one of his padawans?)
501st Legion: 7,300
(After taking over command of the Executor and the 501st, Raxus awakened the entire regimine's force sensitivity.)
Chewbacca: 7,200
(Said to have some Force potential right? I couldn't remember what book it was though.)
Aurra Sing: 7,000
Padme Amidala: 5,000
Danni Quee: 4,500
Shmi Skywalker: 4,000
Lando Calrissian: 3,300
Han Solo: 3,000
Jango Fett: 2,500
Boba Fett: 2,500
Owen Lars: 2,500
Beru Lars: 2,500
Granta Omega: 2,500
Clone Troopers: 2,500