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Post by Tenjou, Utena on Jun 30, 2012 15:31:13 GMT -6
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Post by Kragen on Jun 30, 2012 15:36:44 GMT -6
You'd rather a pre-existing condition prevents you from getting healthcare and have to pay thousands even after being insured?
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Post by Tenjou, Utena on Jun 30, 2012 15:59:06 GMT -6
My beef is with having to buy healthcare insurance or be fined for it.
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Post by DC Comics on Jun 30, 2012 16:02:56 GMT -6
It's healthcare guaranteed by the government or in the hands of private employers. It isn't a perfect model but it's better than it is being in the hands of businesses.
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Post by Garrus Vakarian on Jun 30, 2012 16:21:43 GMT -6
I just find the doom and gloom over all of this to be hilarious. Never mind the fact Canada and the UK had this for fifty years, or at least something similar, and isn't any worse off for it. But oh well, give it ten years and people will be happy now that they don't have to worry about money when they get injured or fall ill.
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Post by Miracle on Jun 30, 2012 18:42:37 GMT -6
I'll just never understand why so many people are against the thing that's for them. I'm happy to see it was upheld.  |
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Post by Alex on Jun 30, 2012 19:22:21 GMT -6
My beef is with having to buy healthcare insurance or be fined for it. You know people who don't want healthcare insurance? |
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Post by Kragen on Jun 30, 2012 19:35:04 GMT -6
My beef is with having to buy healthcare insurance or be fined for it. If people don't buy health insurance, and end up needing to be treated somewhere down the line, it costs other people money. |
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Post by Chloe/Kat on Jun 30, 2012 19:59:56 GMT -6
The amount of people ignorant to the healthcare bill is just ridiculous. Before this bill was introduce insurance companies could deny you care for any reason they saw fit. Now you can't be denied, but this brings us to another issue. Why not just wait until you're sick to get it if you can't be denied?
Realistically there'd be no reason to get health insurance and this would lead to high health insurance premiums so to counteract this you have to get health insurance. You're not being told which insurance to get, how much you have to pay or which company to choose. You're just being told you need health insurance.
If everyone is now insured, because they have to be, you now have a market of over 300 million people buying insurance. It results in lower premiums, lower health care costs and in the long run, a healthy population.
More healthy people means less health coverage needed, means less burden on insurance companies, means longer lifespans and a bigger, healthier work force. Which would be great news for a country struggling to find jobs.
Taking the above into account this is no longer a forced thing, or a fine, but a tax. It would be no different than raising the income tax by 1%. Yes, some people don't like raising taxes, and that's fine, but do people not have a right to be healthy in today's world?
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Post by Tenjou, Utena on Jun 30, 2012 20:17:48 GMT -6
But what about the people and small businesses that can't afford it? If they have to buy in, or be fined, they could end up closing down and as a result you'll have more people on the street without work =/
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Post by Aminee Starlight on Jun 30, 2012 20:23:35 GMT -6
The amount of people ignorant to the healthcare bill is just ridiculous. Before this bill was introduce insurance companies could deny you care for any reason they saw fit. Now you can't be denied, but this brings us to another issue. Why not just wait until you're sick to get it if you can't be denied? Realistically there'd be no reason to get health insurance and this would lead to high health insurance premiums so to counteract this you have to get health insurance. You're not being told which insurance to get, how much you have to pay or which company to choose. You're just being told you need health insurance. If everyone is now insured, because they have to be, you now have a market of over 300 million people buying insurance. It results in lower premiums, lower health care costs and in the long run, a healthy population. More healthy people means less health coverage needed, means less burden on insurance companies, means longer lifespans and a bigger, healthier work force. Which would be great news for a country struggling to find jobs. Taking the above into account this is no longer a forced thing, or a fine, but a tax. It would be no different than raising the income tax by 1%. Yes, some people don't like raising taxes, and that's fine, but do people not have a right to be healthy in today's world? This! This! So much this! |
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Post by Chloe/Kat on Jun 30, 2012 20:34:02 GMT -6
But what about the people and small businesses that can't afford it? If they have to buy in, or be fined, they could end up closing down and as a result you'll have more people on the street without work =/ Smaller businesses and people with lower incomes are given subsidies. |
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Post by Gabrielle on Jun 30, 2012 21:30:25 GMT -6
I'm happy for this ruling, my only concern is Texas will choose to opt out of it and I'm in no position to move right now.
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Post by Sincara on Jun 30, 2012 22:41:17 GMT -6
Typical. Save lives? How much will it cost me?
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Post by Adelina on Jun 30, 2012 22:58:40 GMT -6
This is how it starts. Today it's health insurance, tomorrow the government is telling us what food and drinks we ca- Oh wait, they already ARE telling us what food and drinks we can have. Nvm.
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